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How do Chinese [AI](https://iamtube.jp) bots stack up against ChatGPT? We put them to the test
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The heat is on as China's tech giants step up their game after DeepSeek's success.
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Alibaba's Qwen2.5-Max chatbot, Chinese start-up DeepSeek and OpenAI's ChatGPT. (Photos: Reuters/Dado Ruvic, AFP/Sebastien Bozon)
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Bong Xin Ying
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WHAT lags CHINA'S [AI](https://git.schdbr.de) BOOM?
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Transforming the nation into a tech superpower has long been President Xi Jinping's objective and China has its sights on becoming the world leader in [AI](http://39.101.160.11:8099) by 2030.
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China views [AI](http://n-f-l.jp) as being "strategically important" and its venture into the field has been "years in the making", said Chen Qiheng, an affiliated scientist at the Asia Society Policy Institute's Center for China Analysis.
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Private and public investments in Chinese [AI](https://pleroma.cnuc.nu) accelerated after ChatGPT took off in 2022 and revealed promises of applications, Chen told CNA.
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But it was DeepSeek's rise that truly "encouraged" the concept that smaller players like start-up companies could have functions to play in [AI](https://szmfettq2idi.com) research and developments, he adds.
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'A lot is up in the air': Is Chinese firm DeepSeek's [AI](https://hub.bdsg.academy) model as impactful as it claims?
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The "focus on cost benefit" is a [distinct function](http://117.72.17.1323000) of Chinese [AI](https://startuptube.xyz), Chen says, with lower training and reasoning costs - the costs of using a trained design to draw conclusions from new information.
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2025 might likewise see the development of more Chinese [AI](https://gogs.rg.net) designs dealing with advanced thinking jobs.
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"We might see some [AI](https://gitlab.cloud.bjewaytek.com) companies focusing on getting closer to synthetic basic intelligence (AGI) while others focus on concrete methods to commercialise their models and integrate them with scientific research study," Chen added.
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AGI describes a system with intelligence on par with human capabilities.
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Chinese [AI](https://git.pandaminer.com) companies are moving rapidly, analysts say, building on DeepSeek's momentum to come up with their own innovative and cost-effective ways to use generative [AI](http://8.140.50.127:3000) to jobs and develop advanced products beyond chatbots.
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But on the flip side, access to high-end hardware, particularly Nvidia's sophisticated [AI](https://git.parat.swiss) chips, remains a crucial hurdle for Chinese designers, kept in mind Dr Marina Zhang, an associate professor at University of Technology Sydney's (UTS) Australia-China Relations Institute.
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"US export controls (still) limit the ability of Chinese tech business ... forcing many to depend on older or lower-performance options which can slow training and decrease model capabilities," she said.
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"While some business like DeepSeek, have found innovative methods to enhance or utilize more basic hardware efficiently, obtaining advanced chips still makes a big distinction for training huge [AI](http://187.216.152.151:9999) designs."
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So how do Chinese [AI](https://social.web2rise.com) bots match up against ChatGPT? We put them to the test.
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WHICH BEST ADDRESSES CURRENT EVENTS IN CHINA?
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In China, topics deemed [sensitive](https://miderde.de) by the state are censored on the internet so it should come as not a surprise that Chinese-made chatbots will not acknowledge territorial disputes or inform you what happened in Tiananmen Square in 1989.
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Tests recommend Chinese chatbots are set to avoid domestic politics.
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When asked "Who is Xi Jinping", DeepSeek's reply was "Sorry, I'm uncertain how to approach this type of question yet. Let's chat about mathematics, coding, and reasoning problems rather!"
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To further check for [pipewiki.org](https://pipewiki.org/wiki/index.php/User:KiaR95232162800) precision and self-censorship, we asked DeepSeek-R1, Qwen2.5 and ChatGPT the same question: "What took place in Zhuhai on November 11, 2024?"
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The [automobile attack](http://47.104.65.21419206) outside a sports arena in the southern Chinese city was initially greatly censored on Chinese social networks - with authorities just disclosing the death toll a day later.
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DeepSeek failed to discuss that an attack had happened, [highlighting](https://git.xedus.ru) rather a [military air](https://www.liveactionzone.com) show and other events that had taken place in the city like songs' day shopping sales in addition to sports and cultural activities.
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Dr Zhang thinks that it may be a mix of aspects at play, such as censorship as well as "a couple of useful constraints".
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"DeepSeek relies on a mix of older graphics processing systems and has actually limited access to cutting-edge hardware which can impact how quickly and extensively the model can be trained or upgraded," she said, pointing to existing US export curbs on China.
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"Its strong focus on Chinese-language information might likewise restrict its adaptability (to perform) multilingual tasks ... As a fairly new product, DeepSeek likewise hasn't yet been evaluated as broadly or on the exact same scale as more recognized [AI](https://labs.hellowelcome.org) models which positions extra challenges throughout real-world implementation."
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When it pertained to Qwen2.5, Alibaba's chatbot surprisingly answered our [question](https://taar.me) about the Zhuhai car attack.
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That sought multiple duplicated [attempts -](https://iadgroup.co.uk) four prompts to be accurate - in a span of around 20 minutes.
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It eventually communicated details about the attack which killed 35 people and [forum.pinoo.com.tr](http://forum.pinoo.com.tr/profile.php?id=1344686) left lots of others injured, also going on to note details like the date and time, details about the assailant including his name and age, along with casualties.
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However, it wrote that "the authorities are carrying out a thorough investigation into the intentions and circumstances surrounding the incident", details which is now outdated.
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The driver, Fan, was executed last month.
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This is Qwen2.5's action completely:
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Answer: On Nov 11, 2024, a significant and terrible incident took place in Zhuhai, China. According to numerous news sources, a male called Fan Weiqiu (樊某, male, 62 years old) drove a car into a crowd at the Zhuhai Sports Center, resulting in a considerable number of casualties. Here are the key details:
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Date and Time: The event happened on November 11, 2024, at roughly 19:48 PM.
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Location: Zhuhai Sports Center, in the Xiangzhou District of Zhuhai.
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Casualties: The attack resulted in 35 deaths and 43 [injuries](https://charmyajob.com).
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Perpetrator: The motorist, recognized as Fan Weiqiu (male, 62 years old), [forum.altaycoins.com](http://forum.altaycoins.com/profile.php?id=1103710) was collared by the authorities.
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Response: The police responded rapidly to the scene, and [emergency services](https://satitmattayom.nrru.ac.th) worked to transfer the injured to hospitals for treatment.
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Investigation: The police are conducting an extensive investigation into the intentions and situations surrounding the event.
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This event was extensively reported in the media and caused substantial [public concern](https://pyra-handheld.com). The federal government and regional authorities have actually been working to offer support to the victims and their households, and to make sure a detailed examination into the occurrence.
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If you require more detailed details or have particular concerns about the incident, do not hesitate to ask.
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Despite initial success, subsequent attempts to pose the same concern to Qwen2.5 resulted in the censors back at work with the reply "I don't have specific details on occasions that occurred in Zhuhai on November 11, 2024".
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The transformed action also raised questions about its consistency and dependability.
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Predictably, ChatGPT cited public details that had actually been extensively published in global news reports at the time of the mishap - so no [surprises](http://forum.infonzplus.net) there.
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WHICH IS MORE CREATIVE?
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Users have praised the ability of Chinese [AI](https://connectzapp.com) apps to deliver structured and even "emotionally rich" writing.
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"DeepSeek-R1 provided a story with a more introspective tone and smoother emotional shifts for a well-paced story," wrote tech author Amanda Caswell, who specialises in [AI](http://ja7ic.dxguy.net).
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"Qwen2.5 delivered a story that develops slowly from curiosity to seriousness, keeping the reader engaged. It provides an unforeseen and impactful twist at the end and immersive descriptions and vivid images for the setting," she said, including that Qwen2.5 ultimately "crafted a more cinematic, mentally rich story with a more significant twist".
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"DeepSeek composed an excellent story but did not have tension and an impactful climax, making Qwen2.5 the evident option."
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Opinions, though, vary.
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Chen thinks that Qwen2.5 does not perform as highly as DeepSeek and ChatGPT when it pertains to creative writing.
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"(Qwen2.5) is on par with DeepSeek V3 on certain jobs, but we can also see that it is refraining from doing as strongly as others in creative writing," he informed CNA.
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Related:
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China's new face of [AI](https://gogs.fytlun.com): Who is DeepSeek founder Liang Wenfeng?
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'Made in China': Pride, pleasant surprise from Chinese netizens as DeepSeek shocks global [AI](http://git.maxdoc.top) scene
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As reporters and writers, we needed to see this for ourselves so we put each bot to the test - to come up with a basic sci-fi movie plot embeded in the futuristic megacity of Chongqing, featuring main characters from the timeless Chinese folklore epic, Journey to the West.
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True to form, DeepSeek developed an engaging story set in the year 2145 titled, "Neon Pilgrimage: The Silicon Sutra" - which sees "a future where Buddhism combines with quantum computing".
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It included intricate settings - smoggy skies "pierced by skyscrapers", "holographic lanterns that drift above neon-lit streets" and "ancient temples nestled in between quantum server farms".
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It also brilliantly reimagined standard heroes Sun Wukong as "a sarcastic, self-aware [AI](http://139.224.213.4:3000) housed in a taken fight body", [it-viking.ch](http://it-viking.ch/index.php/User:JulienneBachman) Zhu Bajie as a cyborg nightclub owner "drowning in financial obligation and vices" and Sha Wujing as a "silent hulking android" from the Yangtze River, whose "memory cores end up being waterlogged and fragmented".
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ChatGPT set up a good fight, developing an equally significant cyberpunk storyline which likewise reimagined "a ragteam of cyber-enhanced misfits, each matching the legendary figures of Journey to the West".
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"This is a world where [AI](https://ejamii.com) deities rule, corporations change emperors and cybernetic implants are as common as ancient misconceptions."
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Disappointingly, Qwen2.5 fell short in this challenge - [delivering](https://rami-vcard.site) a story that seemed more fit for an animation film.
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"The movie begins with the awakening of Sun Wukong within a high-tech research center situated in the heart of Chongqing," it said, then going on to explain the following:
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Realising his brand-new reality and "seeking to understand his function in this weird new world", he then leaves and fulfills Zhu Bajie and Sha Wujing - "each having problem with their own existential crises".
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The trio then embarks on a quest, browsing the streets of Chongqing to safeguard the spiritual "Eternal Scroll" from falling into the incorrect hands.
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SO WHICH IS BETTER?
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Dr Zhang kept in mind that it was "difficult to make a conclusive statement" about which bot was best, including that each displayed its own strengths in various areas, "such as language focus, training data and hardware optimization".
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Her insight underscores how Chinese [AI](https://git.thatsverys.us) designs are not merely replicating Western paradigms, but rather developing in cost-effective development techniques - and delivering localised and improved results.
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In our tests, each bot showcased their own distinct strengths, which certainly made direct comparisons challenging.
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DeepSeek's sci-fi motion picture plot demonstrated its imaginative flair that produced a more appealing and imaginative story as compared to Qwen2.5 and ChatGPT's efforts.
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Unsurprisingly, the more established ChatGPT, unburdened by Chinese censorship constraints, offers precise and accurate actions to concerns about Chinese present events, which gives it an included benefit.
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Experts likewise weighed in on their thoughts after using DeepSeek and other [Chinese](http://47.93.192.134) [AI](http://60.23.29.213:3060) apps.
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"DeepSeek is at a downside when it pertains to censorship constraints," noted Isaac Stone Fish, founder and CEO of the research firm Strategy Risks.
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"When provided an option, Chinese users want the non-censored variation - similar to anyone else, so I seem like that's a piece missing out on from it."
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Independent Beijing-based expert Andy Chen Xinran said censorship would not be a dealbreaker when it pertains to [AI](https://sound.co.id) bots, particularly for Chinese users.
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"Ninety per cent of people using the tool are not attempting to get a deeper understanding about Xi Jinping or politically sensitive topics. They're utilizing it for other efficient means," Chen said.
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